The Quran is mostly plagiarism

The Quran is mostly plagiarism

  • "Creation of humans from clay/mud"-
[So mention] when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I am going to create a human being from clay. -(Quran 38:71)
So when I have proportioned him and breathed into him of My [created] soul, then fall down to him in prostration. -(Quran 38:72)
And certainly did We create man from an extract of clay. -(Quran 23:12)
Many religions pre-dating Islam also carry this 'creation of human beings from clay' story. The earliest are the pre-cursors of the Abrahamic faiths - namely the early Mesopotamian religions.
According to Egyptian mythology, the god Khnum creates human children from clay before placing them into their mother's womb: http://www.britannica.com/topic/Khnum
According to Sumerian mythology, the god Enki or Enlil create a servant of the gods, humankind, out of clay and blood:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enki#Enki_and_the_Making_of_Man
According to Greek mythology, Prometheus created man from clay, while Athena breathed life into them:http://www.greekmythology.com/Myths/The_Myths/Creation_of_Man_by_Prometheus/creation_of_man_by_prometheus.html
According to Chinese mythology, Nüwa molded figures from the yellow earth, giving them life and the ability to bear children: http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Nuwa#Creation_Myth
Note: In science, the creation from clay theory, or "clay creation myth", is a defunct scientific theory:http://www.eoht.info/page/Clay+creation+myth
  • "Heavens and Earth separated"-
Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, then We separated them, and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe? -(Quran 21:30)
The idea that the heavens and earth were once joined and then separated by the activity of Gods and Goddesses was actually quite common among pagans of the Middle East. If you remove the pagan references, you have a similar story found in the Quran: http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Enlil#Creator_of_heaven.2C_earth.2C_and_seasons
This is also a repetition of cosmic egg myths in which an egg-like structure was split into two halves, the lower half forming the earth and the upper half forming the heaven: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_egg
Note: Some Muslim apologists claim this verse matches the Big Bang theory. It is actually silent on the Big Bang because it clearly has no awareness of a universe that preexisted the creation of the planet Earth. During Big Bang, the Earth was completely non-existent, so even doctoring of language fails to prove Quran scientific.
  • "Seven Heavens and Seven Earths"-
It is Allah who has created seven heavens and of the earth, the like of them. [His] command descends among them so you may know that Allah is over all things competent and that Allah has encompassed all things in knowledge." -(Quran 65:12)
Sumerian incantations of the late second millennium BCE make references to seven heavens and seven earths. One such incantation is: "an-imin-bi ki-imin-bi" (the heavens are seven, the earths are seven.): https://goo.gl/avH84P
Note: "Seven" was a mystical number in ancient times because of the seven classical planets visible in the sky:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_planet
  • "Crossing the bridge in afterlife"-
Chinvat Bridge (Broad for the righteous and narrow for the wicked): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinvat_Bridge
As-Sirat (Hair-narrow bridge which every person must pass): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As-Sir%C4%81t
  • "The Legend of Noah"-
The Eridu Genesis Flood (3d millennium BCE): http://www.livius.org/fa-fn/flood/flood2-t.html
The Epic of Atrahasis (c.1640 BCE): http://www.livius.org/fa-fn/flood/flood3-t-atrahasis.html
Epic of Gilgamesh, Tablet XI (c.1100 BCE): http://www.livius.org/fa-fn/flood/flood3-t-gilgamesh.html
Note: The legend of Noah and the Ark states that two of each kind of animal was placed on an ark. However, there are over a hundred thousand species of animals including penguins, polar bears, koala bears, and kangaroos that live spread across the entire planet and in different climates and requiring specialized diets. There is no way such an event could have occurred.
  • "Iron from Heaven proposition"-
And We sent down iron, wherein is great military might and benefits for the people, and so that Allah may make evident those who support Him and His messengers unseen. Indeed, Allah is Powerful and Exalted in Might. -(Quran 57:25)
The concept of iron from outer space/heaven/sky was already known to humanity thousands of years before Islam.
The ancient Egyptians referred to iron as ‘iron from heaven’: https://goo.gl/7r81L6
Here's more plagiarism: Koran verse 5:32 is almost identical to verse 37a in the Jewish Talmud Sanhedrin . Obviously stupid allah was too dull to come up with his own stuff. LOL
“Because of this, we decreed for the Children of Israel that anyone who murders any person who had not committed murder or horrendous crimes, it shall be as if he murdered all the people. And anyone who spares a life, it shall be as if he spared the lives of all the people." Qur'an 5:32
"For this reason was man created alone, to teach thee that whosoever destroys a single soul of israel, scripture imputes [guilt] to him as though he had destroyed a complete world; and whosoever preserves a single soul of israel, scripture ascribes [merit] to him as though he had preserved a complete world." Talmud: Sanhedrin 37a
The Jewish Talmud was written 600 years before kiddie fiddler Mo was born.


Here's parallelism between the Apocryphal gospels and the koran: this one is about birds made out of clay:
Koran 5:110: "...and when thou didst determine out of clay a thing like the form of a bird by My permission, then thou didst breathe into it and it became a bird by My permission;"
Koran 3:49 "... I determine for you out of dust the form of a bird, then I breathe into it and it becomes a bird with Allah’s permission"
The First Gospel of the Infancy of Jesus Christ: Chapter 15: "Who at play made clay into several shapes, namely, asses, oxen, birds, and other figures....He had also made the figures of birds and sparrows, which, when he commanded to fly, did fly"
The Second Gospel of the Infancy of Jesus Christ: Chapter 1 :"Then he took from the bank of the stream some soft clay and formed out of it twelve sparrows;"


muslims believe that God sent prophets to every people, espousing the same religion of Islam in different forms.
This is a claim often made by Muslim apologists (who have a vested interest in Islam, presenting Islam in good light) for those of us who are much more objective and rational and without the presupposition that "Islam is perfect", we can see that Islam incorporated many aspects of Pre-islamic beliefs and culture from the surrounding and pre-existing civilizations of the middle east, to make the transition from polytheism to monotheism easier and familiar to 7th century pagan Arabs.
Who are these prophets? What evidence do you have that they preached something similar to Islam? Who did they preach to? More importantly What evidence do you have for their existence? (try to avoid circular reasoning)
Before you even ascribe these prophets to god, what evidence do you have that a supernatural deity with certain characteristics that just happens to fit Islam's conception of god exists?
That asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Anyone can make BS claims? What evidence do you/Muslims have for the existence of these other prophets?
(Little clue practically none, little to no historical/archeological evidence or any consensus by respected historians/archeologists, that these other prophets existed)

because they had religions revealed to them in the past, which they dilute and corrupted (in Muslim opinion).
In order to prove such beliefs are "corrupted", muslim apologists must demonstrate evidence of the original "revelation" pre-existing before the so called presence of the "corrupted" beliefs. As of now Muslim apologists have been unable to provide archaeological or any evidence what so ever. All they have is "Islamic scripture x says so and dats true cos allah/Muhammad said so" - which once again is an unproven assertion, as well as being circular logic.
What evidence do you/muslims have for the above claim? That asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. I find myself often saying this, it seems Muslim apologists think they can make up extraordinary and nonsensical claims and try to pass them off as factual without providing any evidence what so ever for such claims.

So Muhammad declares these pagan religions as heretical but he then goes to incorporate stories and practices from these heretical groups into Islam? Think about what you're saying here.
Islam is basically a mix between Judaism, Christianity, Zoroastrianism and some other pagan religions ( Meccan pagans, Sabians etc. ). There's also a lot of mythological stories in the Quran that used to circulate in Arabia which Muhammad made the mistake of incorporating into the Islamic canon. You can easily see this is not a religion from God when you look at these facts objectively.

  1. Circling the Kaaba 7 times ( pagan ritual the meccans did )
  2. Kissing the black stone ( As the meccans did )
  3. Praying 5 times a day ( which the Sabians did )
  4. The whole act of the pilgrimage to Kaaba and traveling between the two hills 7 times which Muslims do today was a pagan practice preformed by the meccans.
  5. Fasting on the 10th day of Muharram was also a pagan practice which Muhammad incorporated into Islam.
These are some of the pagan practices i could recall at the top of my head. I'm sure there's some more.

One more thing to add "Dayandnight95", they claim it started out as Islamic practices but were hijacked by the pagans, and then reclaimed by Muhammad.
The problem with all of this is science. Archaeologists tell us that Mecca did not exist before the 4th century. All archaeologists would need is a bone, a stone, or any artifact that could set an early date for Mecca but there is nothing. This confirms that it was the other way around with Muhammad retaining pagan practices, and justifying it with revelations by calling it "pre-Islamic" period of ignorance.

It seems to me Muhammad has incorporated many aspects of Pre-islamic culture and beliefs into the 7th century ideology of Islam, to make the transition from polytheism to monotheism easier and familiar to 7th century pagan Arabs.
I posted this in another thread...
Some relevant and interesting information, concerning Pre-islamic practices and stone worship, by Ali Dashti (An Iranian rationalist, executed by the Islamists of Iran)
"...While other primitive peoples venerated the sun and moon and stars, the Bedouin Arabs were obsessed with stones and had a custom of circumambulating them..."
"...At every halt on a journey across the desert, an Arab traveller's first action was to find four stones; he would put the nicest one on the ground and walk around it, and then use the three others as supports for his cooking pot. Sacrificial slaughter of sheep, goats, and camels had to be done in front of a stone and in such a way that the blood would stain the stone red..."
"...several national customs of the Arabs are known to have been endorsed and perpetuated. All the ceremonies of the hajj (pilgrimage in the month of Dhu'l-Hejja) and the 'amra (supererogatory or lesser pilgrimage), such as the wearing of a seamless white robe, the kissing or touching of the black stone, the running between Sata and Marwa, the halt at Aratat, and the pebblethrowing (symbolic stoning of the Satan), had been practiced in the pre- Islamic period and were retained with only a few modifications. The pagan Arabs, while circumambulating the Ka'ba, used to call out to Lat, Ozza, Manat, or any other idol that their tribe revered, "Here I am at your service (labbayka), O Manat!" or whichever. Under Islam, the call to an idol was replaced by the call to God (Allahomma), and the formula became labbayka Allahomma labbayka!..."

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